Waterloo East - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward

Uptown Waterloo and the North Ward offer a unique mix of character homes, walkable streets, and quick access to cafes, shops, parks, and transit. Buyers looking for single detached homes here appreciate the charm of established neighbourhoods combined with the convenience of being close to Waterloo’s core.

Browse the current single detached listings below, and reach out if you would like help comparing homes or nearby neighbourhoods across Waterloo East.

Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Detached Houses for Sale

Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Detached Houses for Sale Single Detached Homes for Sale

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  • 160 Erb Street E in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40773122

    160 Erb Street E 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Waterloo N2J 1M4
    Main Photo: 160 Erb Street E in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40773122
    $760,000
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40773122
    Bedrooms:
    2
    Bathrooms:
    1
    Floor Area:
    1,900 sq. ft.
    Single Detached Bungalow with Large Lot. Zoning is RMU 20. Features a 62ft X 165ft Lot. Features a 900 SqFt two level Addition on the back of the Home and 1200 sqft with the main floor of the Bungalow. Plenty of Opportunity with the Home and Property. More details
    Listed by Royal LePage Wolle Realty
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 48 Dupont Street in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40820172

    48 Dupont Street 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Waterloo N2J 2G9
    Main Photo: 48 Dupont Street in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40820172
    $949,900
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40820172
    Bedrooms:
    5
    Bathrooms:
    5
    Floor Area:
    3,090 sq. ft.
    Welcome to 48 Dupont St. in Waterloo, a rare opportunity to own a spacious and versatile home in a highly sought-after location. Just a short walk to Uptown Waterloo, you’ll enjoy convenient access to shopping, restaurants, parks, and public transit—everything you need just steps from your door. This property is ideal for large or multi-generational families looking to live together while maintaining privacy. Featuring two separate apartments, it offers exceptional flexibility. One unit can easily be converted into an in-law suite by simply removing a door, creating a self-contained space with its own kitchen and bathroom—perfect for independent living. The second unit can accommodate extended family or serve as an income-generating rental. The home showcases true pride of ownership, carefully maintained by the same owners for over 60 years. It features three generous bedrooms, a 4-piece main bathroom. The updated kitchen is both stylish and functional, complete with granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, making it perfect for entertaining. A large dining room offers added flexibility and could easily be used as a home office or additional living space. Bright windows fill the home with natural light, creating a warm and inviting feel throughout. The lower level boasts a spacious recreation room with a cozy wood-burning fireplace, ideal for relaxing or hosting family gatherings. Outside, you’ll find a backyard designed for both enjoyment and practicality. The oversized 18' x 44' in-ground pool is perfect for summer days, while the 6-person hot tub provides year-round relaxation. A large 42' x 48' garden is ideal for those with a green thumb. The massive 24' x 43'10" insulated garage offers incredible space for vehicles, tools, boats, or business use, along with parking for 10 or more vehicles. Homes like this—offering space, flexibility, and location—rarely come to market. Don’t miss this amazing opportunity!!! More details
    Listed by Re/Max Icon Realty
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 342 King Street N in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40794166

    342 King Street N 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Waterloo N2J 2Z2
    Main Photo: 342 King Street N in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40794166
    $1,688,800
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40794166
    Bedrooms:
    4
    Bathrooms:
    2
    Floor Area:
    1,575 sq. ft.
    Welcome to 342 King St North in Waterloo! Large frontage location near the University of Waterloo, Wilfrid Laurier, and Conestoga College. This is located in Waterloo's Up town Waterloo, the University Districts. Close walking distances to restaurants and schools. The Johnston Technology Park, and the GO buses stop just down by Laurier at University Avenue. Zoning is RMU Residential Mixed Use, for potential 25 stories building. The 2 first and second for commercial Retail and mixed use can be 16 feet high. More details
    Listed by RE/MAX TWIN CITY REALTY INC.
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 427 Duke Street W in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40838864

    427 Duke Street W 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Kitchener N2H 3Y6
    Main Photo: 427 Duke Street W in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40838864
    $399,900
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40838864
    Bedrooms:
    2
    Bathrooms:
    2
    Floor Area:
    1,086 sq. ft.
    Attention Investors, Flippers & Families! Rare Midtown Corner Lot with massive potential available for the first time in 40+ years! This 1902 detached home sits on a premium 40’ x 119’ corner lot in a rapidly appreciating Midtown pocket near DTK, transit, and the Spur Line Trail. Surrounded by $1M+ redevelopments, this property offers ultimate flexibility for a high-end family renovation or a high-yield investment project. The existing 2-bed, 1.5-bath character home features great bones and excellent holding value. Major mechanical updates offer immediate peace of mind, including a furnace replaced in 2025 and a newer main roof from 2020. Move in, rent out, or renovate while finalizing your permits. The high density RES-5 zoning and dual street exposure are perfectly primed for intensification under Kitchener’s "Growing Together" framework. Capitalize on the corner configuration for separate unit entrances and streamlined parking logistics to build cluster townhouses, a multi-unit conversion, or an accessory dwelling. Best of all, leverage the "10 unit threshold" for an expedited Zoning Certificate process, bypassing complex site plans. Whether you want to restore a piece of history or build a multi-unit legacy project, this prime piece of Midtown’s future is a must-see! More details
    Listed by Royal LePage Wolle Realty
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 40 Moore Avenue in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40849812

    40 Moore Avenue 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Kitchener N2H 3S1
    Main Photo: 40 Moore Avenue in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40849812
    $729,900
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40849812
    Bedrooms:
    4
    Bathrooms:
    3
    Floor Area:
    2,484 sq. ft.
    NEW PRICE! - This is the opportunity you have been waiting for! This beautifully maintained, Low Maintenance, Move-in ready 3 + 1 bedroom, 3-bathroom home, offers a perfect blend of style, comfort and functionality. Thoughtfully designed with an open-concept layout, the main floor features a bright living room and inviting family room, a stunning kitchen complete with quartz countertops, new stainless steel appliances, a large island, and a walk-in pantry, along with convenient main-floor laundry and powder room. Upstairs, the spacious primary bedroom offers a walk-in closet and ensuite privileges, while the finished basement provides exceptional additional living space with a large rec room, fourth bedroom and 3-piece bathroom. The side door provides you access to the dedicated bike/stroller/mud room which enters the house into the family room. This fully renovated century home is ideal for families, professionals, or anyone looking for a low-maintenance property without compromising on space. Located in a highly walkable midtown Kitchener neighbourhood, just minutes from the Central ION station, downtown Kitchener, uptown Waterloo, and the upcoming regional transit hub for quick access to VIA and GO trains. Whether you're entertaining at home on the covered porch or deck or exploring everything urban living has to offer, this exceptional property is ready for its next chapter. More details
    Listed by RE/MAX TWIN CITY REALTY INC.
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 976 Guelph Street in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40850148

    976 Guelph Street 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Kitchener N2H 5Z6
    Main Photo: 976 Guelph Street in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40850148
    $649,000
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40850148
    Bedrooms:
    3
    Bathrooms:
    3
    Floor Area:
    1,560 sq. ft.
    Welcome to the perfect blend of charm, comfort, and outdoor living! This beautifully maintained 3-bedroom, 3-bathroom home offers a lifestyle that's hard to find, combining functional living spaces with an incredible backyard retreat. Step inside to discover a thoughtfully designed interior featuring spacious principal rooms, two bedrooms, and the convenience of three bathrooms—providing comfort and flexibility for everyday living. Whether you're working from home, entertaining guests, or simply enjoying a quiet evening in, this home is designed to fit your lifestyle. Outside is where this property truly shines. Spend your summers relaxing by the inground pool, host unforgettable gatherings around the fire pit or gardening. The detached garage provides excellent storage, workshop potential, or space for your favourite hobby. Perfectly suited for young professionals, growing families, or downsizers who refuse to compromise on outdoor space and lifestyle, this home offers the rare combination of privacy, recreation, and convenience—all in a desirable Kitchener location close to parks, schools, shopping, and commuter routes. This is more than just a house—it's your own private oasis, ready to be enjoyed all year long. More details
    Listed by Royal LePage Wolle Realty
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 67 Weber Street S in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40851867

    67 Weber Street S 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Waterloo N2J 1Z8
    Main Photo: 67 Weber Street S in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40851867
    $689,900
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40851867
    Bedrooms:
    2
    Bathrooms:
    2
    Floor Area:
    1,298 sq. ft.
    Beautiful bungalow with luxury finishes, ideally located on the edge of Uptown Waterloo! From the moment you arrive, you’ll notice the impressive curb appeal, beautifully maintained exterior, very long driveway and single car garage! Inside, this charming home offers a bright, spacious layout with thoughtful updates throughout. The updated kitchen features quartz countertops, stainless steel appliances, and a separate wine fridge. The front living room is large and filled with natural light, while the dining room offers plenty of space for hosting, complete with additional serving counter space and a beverage fridge. At the back of the home, the four-season sunroom is a standout feature. Bright, comfortable, and overlooking the backyard, it’s the perfect spot to relax and enjoy the peaceful surroundings year-round. A separate entrance provides direct access to the yard and includes a convenient mudroom area, coat closet, and stairs leading to the spacious basement. The lower level offers plenty of potential, whether you’re considering an in-law suite, additional living space, or something completely your own. Outside, the large, fully fenced backyard feels private and peaceful, with a beautiful concrete patio, hot tub area, and direct garage access. Updated, charming, spacious, and move-in ready, with even more opportunity to add value downstairs. This home is a true gem in an incredible location, just minutes from Uptown Waterloo while still offering a quiet place to call home. Book your private showing ASAP! More details
    Listed by KELLER WILLIAMS INNOVATION REALTY
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 251 Union Street E in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40855282

    251 Union Street E 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Waterloo N2J 1E3
    Main Photo: 251 Union Street E in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40855282
    $799,999
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40855282
    Bedrooms:
    4
    Bathrooms:
    2
    Floor Area:
    1,028 sq. ft.
    Welcome to 251 Union St. This beautifully maintained all-brick bungalow offers the perfect blend of comfort, privacy, and natural surroundings. This home Features 3 spacious bedrooms 2 bath, this home is perfect for families, downsizers, those seeking single-level living, or investors alike. Combining timeless curb appeal with functional living space. The basement has endless opportunities from creating an in-law set up to an extra entertaining space. Step outside and discover your own backyard oasis—an ideal retreat for relaxing, entertaining, or enjoying peaceful evenings surrounded by mature landscaping. The detached two-car garage is ideal for any car enthusiast and offers ample parking for up to 6 vehicles. Providing exceptional convenience for families and guests. Nature lovers will appreciate the home's prime location, just steps from Breithaupt Park with scenic walking trails and green spaces, making it easy to enjoy outdoor recreation year-round, and a tranquil setting close to nature, this bungalow is a wonderful place to call home. Enjoy a bright and functional layout with numerous upgrades throughout, providing both style and peace of mind. Situated in a friendly neighborhood, this home is conveniently located close to schools, shopping, public transit, making everyday living easy and enjoyable. Updates include Flooring (2022) Heat Pump (2023) Furnace (2024) and many more updates You won't want to miss this one call today. More details
    Listed by RE/MAX SOLID GOLD REALTY (II) LTD.
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 267 Erb Street E in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40857919

    267 Erb Street E 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Waterloo N2J 1N6
    Main Photo: 267 Erb Street E in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40857919
    $599,000
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40857919
    Bedrooms:
    5
    Bathrooms:
    3
    Floor Area:
    1,552 sq. ft.
    Welcome to this beautifully updated detached home in the highly desirable East Waterloo neighborhood, offering the perfect blend of comfort, functionality, and income potential. Situated in a spacious lot, this side-split features 3+1 bedrooms, 2.5 bathrooms, parking for up to 4 vehicles and 4 finished levels. Step inside to a bright main floor highlighted by a sun-filled kitchen with updated cabinetry and modern finishes, flowing seamlessly into the living and dining areas. A standout feature of this home is the separate entrance to the fully finished basement, providing excellent potential for an in-law suite or rental income opportunity. The basement includes additional living space and versatile rooms perfect for a home office, gym, or guest accommodation. The lower-level family room offers a cozy retreat with a gas fireplace, washroom and convenient walkout access to the backyard. Recent improvements include professional interior and exterior painting, refinished hardwood flooring, a newly added full bathroom, updated kitchen flooring and cabinetry, modern light fixtures, new window coverings and a professionally finished driveway. Located just seconds from Highway 7 and minutes to Uptown Waterloo, both universities, St. Jacobs Farmers’ Market, parks, schools, shopping, and transit, this property offers unmatched convenience for families and investors alike. Currently rented on a month-to-month basis with good income. Vacant possession can be provided. The property will be professionally cleaned and delivered in the same condition as shown in photos. More details
    Listed by CENTURY 21 RIGHT TIME REAL ESTATE INC.
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 124 Dover Street in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40857980

    124 Dover Street 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Waterloo N2J 1Z6
    Main Photo: 124 Dover Street in Waterloo: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40857980
    $599,900
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40857980
    Bedrooms:
    3
    Bathrooms:
    1
    Floor Area:
    1,120 sq. ft.
    Welcome to 124 Dover Street, nestled on one of the most desirable and quiet streets in Waterloo's sought-after Mary Allen District. Situated on an impressive 65' x 100'+ lot, this property is surrounded by mature trees and beautiful gardens, offering both privacy and plenty of outdoor space. This well-maintained 3-bedroom, 1-bathroom home features over 1,100 square feet of finished living space, with a partially finished basement that provides additional storage or the opportunity to expand and make it your own. Enjoy the convenience of being just a short walk to Uptown Waterloo, the Spur Line Trail, excellent schools, grocery stores, parks, cafes/bakeries and restaurants. The home has seen many recent updates, including fresh paint, laminate flooring, new exterior doors, a new stove, new shingles, and an updated furnace and air conditioner, making it move-in ready. Step outside to a private backyard featuring a new deck and an oversized fenced yard—an ideal setting for summer barbecues, entertaining family and friends, or simply relaxing in your own outdoor retreat. Don't miss your chance to own a home in one of Waterloo's most established and sought-after neighbourhoods. Call today for your private showing. More details
    Listed by CONDO CULTURE, BROKERAGE
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 1159 Union Street in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40858539

    1159 Union Street 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Kitchener N2H 6K3
    Main Photo: 1159 Union Street in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40858539
    $599,900
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40858539
    Bedrooms:
    5
    Bathrooms:
    3
    Floor Area:
    2,332 sq. ft.
    Welcome to 1159 Union Street, Kitchener: a charming and elegant home that combines character, space, flexibility and an incredible backyard, all in a convenient location close to Waterloo. Set on a generous 47' x 120' lot, this property makes a wonderful first impression with its welcoming front porch, large front yard and extended private driveway offering parking for up to 7 vehicles. Step inside to a bright and inviting living room where natural light flows beautifully throughout the main floor. A main-floor bedroom and 4pc bathroom add valuable convenience and flexibility for guests, parents, grandparents or anyone seeking one-level living. The kitchen comes equipped with appliances and offers plenty of space for cooking and meal preparation, while the adjacent dining area is perfect for family dinners and creating lasting memories. At the back of the home, the sun-filled family room offers another comfortable place to gather, with a patio door leading directly to the backyard and creating an easy connection between indoor and outdoor living. Another 3pc bathroom completes the main level. Upstairs, there are 2 additional bedrooms, each with windows that bring in plenty of natural light. The fully finished basement with separate entrance expands the living space with 2 additional bedrooms, Kitchenette setup and 3pc bathroom. Outside, the huge fully fenced backyard is ready for fun. Enjoy summer BBQs, family gatherings in the home's unique Party Pit area, while the storage shed provides space for tools or seasonal items. The location is another major highlight. Situated in Kitchener's Victoria North area, you're close to Waterloo, Highway 7/8, public transit, parks, trails, shopping, restaurants and everyday amenities. Breithaupt Park, Bechtel Park, Lancaster Business Park Trail, Walter Bean Grand River Trail and Grand River Hospital are within convenient reach. This house offers space to grow, gather and enjoy life. Book your private showing and make your move! More details
    Listed by RE/MAX Twin City Realty Inc.
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
  • 40 Guelph Street in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East) : MLS®# 40859715

    40 Guelph Street 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Kitchener N2H 5W8
    Main Photo: 40 Guelph Street in Kitchener: 114 - Uptown Waterloo/North Ward Single Family Residence for sale (1 - Waterloo East)  : MLS®# 40859715
    $639,900
    Residential
    Status:
    Active
    MLS® Num:
    40859715
    Bedrooms:
    3
    Bathrooms:
    2
    Floor Area:
    1,199 sq. ft.
    Beautifully maintained and thoughtfully updated, this charming home offers the perfect blend of heritage character, modern comfort and space for a growing family. Warm maple hardwood flooring flows throughout, while numerous updates—including windows, electrical, plumbing, and central air— a high-efficiency furnace, tankless water heater, roof and stainless steel kitchen appliances—make this a home you can simply move into and enjoy. The bright kitchen features a convenient breakfast bar, perfect for busy mornings, homework or casual family meals. Just off the kitchen is a bonus main floor laundry/mudroom, providing a practical everyday drop zone for coats, shoes, backpacks and extra storage. The dining room walks out to a spacious wood deck with a natural gas BBQ line, creating an easy extension of the living space for fall dinners and entertaining. The fully fenced backyard offers plenty of room for children and pets to play, while the unique two-storey shed with hydro provides fantastic additional space for a workshop, hobby area, artist studio or extra storage. The upper level features three bedrooms, each with hardwood flooring and windows that fill the rooms with natural light, creating bright and comfortable spaces for the whole family. Side door and back door separate entrance plus patio sliders to backyard. Set on a mature, tree-lined street in a welcoming and highly sought-after Midtown neighbourhood, this location offers families the best of both convenience and community. Walk to schools, parks and the Spur Line Trail, Google, LRT, Sunlife, the Transit Hub and GO/VIA Station and Grand River Hospital (WRHN) all close by. Ideally positioned between Uptown Waterloo and Downtown Kitchener, with shopping, restaurants, recreation and everyday amenities just minutes from home. More details
    Listed by RE/MAX TWIN CITY REALTY INC.
    MELANIE & WARREN MCNEIL
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Waterloo East / Uptown Waterloo & North Ward Single Detached

Single Detached Houses in Uptown Waterloo & the North Ward

Market Overview for Single Detached Homes in Uptown & North Ward

Uptown Waterloo and the North Ward attract buyers looking for character, convenience, and a walkable lifestyle. Many of the homes here were built between the early 1900s and mid century, offering classic architecture, mature trees, and well established streetscapes. Proximity to the LRT, Waterloo Park, restaurants, and boutique shopping makes this area appealing to professionals, young families, and long term residents who enjoy living close to the centre of Waterloo.

Properties that maintain their original charm or have been thoughtfully updated tend to draw strong interest. Larger lots, front porches, and timeless designs are common features that buyers value in this part of the city.

Buying a Single Detached Home in Uptown Waterloo & North Ward

Buyers often look for updated kitchens and bathrooms, preserved architectural details, and functional outdoor spaces. The walkability of these neighbourhoods is a major advantage, with schools, parks, shopping, and transit all within close range.

Neighbourhood Highlights

  • Mature trees and character homes with strong curb appeal
  • Walkable access to Uptown shops, cafes, and restaurants
  • Short distance to Waterloo Park, the LRT, and Uptown Square
  • Established community atmosphere and long term neighbourhood stability

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